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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Aug 31, 2006 18:09:35 GMT -6
I just now tried calling that other number again -- 703-670-2921 -- and it must have rang about 10-12 times; still no answer.
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Post by tclion on Sept 2, 2006 11:52:23 GMT -6
Hey if I may chime here.... There is nothing for anyone to be sorry for. The idea is this we all pulled together and help each other as a family. I think that showed great class in your part Liz. You were trying to help a friend with a lead that is truly great. I hold you right up there with Roger in class raking. I think you deserve to set next to Gladys so pull up stool as we all bow down in the presence of greatness..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 2, 2006 22:04:57 GMT -6
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Post by gina1975 on Sept 4, 2006 18:36:43 GMT -6
It would be great if it was. You know that most libraries, for a small fee, will send you a copy of the info you need. If they won't then the original newspaper can. I have found some listings of the 1910 New York census. I am searching the listings for her name right now. If I find a listing for her, I'll tell you about it. Oh, By the way LIZ are you posting HERE? If so, then we have been replying to each other there.
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 4, 2006 20:39:44 GMT -6
Check out THIS Egan link. I think it's rather interesting that there was another Egan sort of involved in making brand new "moving pictures" with Thomas Edison. Hmmmm......... Larry
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Post by Kimmer on Sept 5, 2006 17:43:50 GMT -6
Larry, I saw a cute pic of her from a film called "A Trap for Santa," have you seen it? I just noticed that Liz sent you the same link that I sent you on my board!!
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Post by liz on Sept 6, 2006 16:35:51 GMT -6
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Post by liz on Sept 6, 2006 16:39:36 GMT -6
PS: Type in gladys name. There's 448 found matches. Alot doesn't concern her. More things to sort thru.
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 8, 2006 6:54:32 GMT -6
Well, Google has a new archive search feature at news.google.com/archivesearch. I've attempted using this feature in my quest for Miss Gladys. On the second page, I found one that I know true to be our Gladys, from 1909. There is another one which I wonder about however. It is the search result "The Coshocton Tribune (Newspaper) - June 2, 1921, Coshocton, Ohio". However, to do a complete search, of course, there is a fee for. Is that a surprise? I guess I'll have to explore that more at a later time. Larry
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Oct 7, 2006 15:04:22 GMT -6
This has just been once again brought to my attention by Gina, so I decided to post it here. I quoted this text from PictureShow Man's website at www.pictureshowman.com/questionsandanswers3.cfm.
Dear Picture Show Man: Q: Who was the first actor to die in a film with their eyes open? A: We have decided that this is the most curious question we have ever received. We can only speculate as to what was the subject of the conversation that initially prompted this question, but suspect our answer will probably go back further in motion picture history than you would suppose. The first film that we found in which a character dies with their eyes open is D.W. Griffith's 1909 movie "The Country Doctor". The movie stars Frank Powell as Dr. Harcourt, Florence Lawrence as Mrs. Harcourt, Gladys Egan as their daughter Edith, and Mary Pickford in a small role. The title character, a prosperous husband and father, is caught in a social tragedy when his daughter falls ill and he's pulled from her side by the illness of another girl from a markedly poorer home. Toward the end of the film, Dr. Harcourt's daughter Edith turns toward the camera and dies with her eyes open. It is a very haunting scene, and the first that we can find where the traditional acting convention of dying by closing your eyes is ignored. At this early stage in motion picture history, acting for the camera was still a developing art. Many people who appeared in front of the camera were not trained actors, and the few who were had been trained for the stage where broad gestures were often used and accepted. Gifted directors like D.W. Griffith realized that the camera was capable of catching very subtle changes in expression, and when filming dramatic stories they made increasingly greater efforts trying to tone down the expressions and gestures of their actors. Although, even today, it is easier to accept these exaggerated gestures and expressions in a comedy, we might note that comedians like Charlie Chaplin often worked to tone down the reactions of even their costars, especially during a tender scene. There are quite a few other movies from Hollywood's Golden Age in which an actor either dies or is found dead with their eyes open. At the end of "The Public Enemy" (1931) a door is opened and James Cagney's trussed up, dead body is shown on the other side with his eyes still open. Myrna Loy dies with her eyes open at the end of "The Rains Came" (1939), and there are many others. If anyone knows of an actor who "dies" with their eyes open in a film before D.W. Griffith's "A Country Doctor", please let us know. Such a curious question deserves an accurate answer.
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Post by Kimmer on Feb 5, 2007 18:35:05 GMT -6
Larry--do you have a list of all of her movies? I think I found a pretty decent list from 1909-1910....not much, but hey....so, contact me if you don't have it!!
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Post by diane on Feb 28, 2007 3:45:05 GMT -6
How is your search going Larry? Have you thought of finding out about her parents and if she had brothers and sisters and working on from there - you probably have already. There is a program on TV over here called "Who Do you Think You Are". It is an english program and each week a different "celebrity" goes back to find out about their family history. It is very fascinating - some are really interesting - one had had a great great grandfather who was extremely violent and a child had died. There are so many ways to get so much information. The only thing is it could be expensive. I think Adele DeGarde was cute too but she also petered out. Maybe in those far-away days parents were more concerned with children just being children than chasing fame and fortune.
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Mar 1, 2007 8:47:41 GMT -6
That sounds like a very fascinating program to see, Diane. I know I've seen similar ones over here. As for my search for Gladys (sorry I missed this topic somehow — I read your post and forgot to get back to reply ;D), I've kind of worn out and exhausted myself on it. I've just basically taken a hiatus for a little while. I will not give up, however! Just too many other "irons in the fire" right now. Thank you for checking in with me on this, as it is wonderful knowing there are others concerned with Miss Egan as much as I am!
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Post by Kimmer on Mar 1, 2007 13:11:14 GMT -6
Hey, will you answer my post?! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Mar 1, 2007 17:54:42 GMT -6
Oh, I'm sorry, Kimmer! Geez, I did fall behind! Yes, I DO have a complete listing of her films which she was in. My list is from 1908-1914.
Thank you! ;D :angel:
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Post by precoder on Mar 1, 2007 18:41:26 GMT -6
Kimmer, you were very sweet to try to help out with that information. Forgive us, we fell asleep on that. But yes Gladys' filmography is posted on the web complete I think in two places. A list of her Biograph work is on a NYTimes archive. But anything else obscure you might find about her, please go ahead and ask us if we know about it. We're looking for any lead we can get ...
I'm pretty confident everything available on the internet has been examined by several people other than just us. It's all the same data: scant references that lead nowhere ...
My guess would be she stayed in New York when Biograph relocated to Hollywood and she got married instead around 1919 and assumed a new name and quit show business. It wasn't noticed or reported on by the mass media and she slipped into the realm of the forgotten ...
Somewhere in the old New York Times, there must be a small society news box that reads something like:
" -- Wedding Bells For Child Star --"
Popular Biograph film star Gladys Egan announced her engagement to (so&so) and plans wedding in Brooklyn and a two week honeymoon at Niagara and then home to Toronto. Remembered best in The Adventures Of Dolly, the actress had been out of pictures for some time.
Louella Parsons - New York Times 1919 . . .
Maybe not ... But something like this is what we need to find ... Who was the so&so and where did she go ?
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Oct 4, 2007 7:59:15 GMT -6
Well, all this talk we've been doing about searching for Gladys Egan, has somewhat sparked me to do a little again last night. When I did, I came up with this: wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=genediger2&id=I28137I'm uncertain if this is our beloved little Miss Egan, but the indicators would seem to be there. This particular person would certainly be of the correct age and geographic location, as our Gladys!
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Post by Kimmer on Oct 5, 2007 13:35:00 GMT -6
You should contact that person and ask about Gladys!!
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Oct 5, 2007 13:44:04 GMT -6
I've already sent two e-mails to two different people, one of whom I suspect may be a family member. Still awaiting replies. :thumbsup:
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Post by Kimmer on Oct 5, 2007 13:49:25 GMT -6
Did you contact Barbara Newman Finizia?
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Oct 5, 2007 13:50:59 GMT -6
Yes, Kimmer; that's the one. Have you already tried her?
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Post by Kimmer on Oct 5, 2007 13:58:43 GMT -6
No--but I will!! OK....I won't, she can't be contacted as she hasn't set up a contact. So....why is she listed as a contact person?!
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Post by Hedvig on Oct 8, 2007 4:35:48 GMT -6
This is a fascinating hunt to follow. I've been a fan of Miss Egan ever since she proudly told the soldiers how she had scared away Henry B Walthall in the biograph movie In The Border States. That little girl had character. She was also in one of the groundbreaking movies of the period 1900-1910, The Adventures of Dolly. It's funny that there is so little information available about her.
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Post by tclion on Oct 15, 2007 14:08:51 GMT -6
This is a fascinating hunt to follow. I've been a fan of Miss Egan ever since she proudly told the soldiers how she had scared away Henry B Walthall in the biograph movie In The Border States. That little girl had character. She was also in one of the groundbreaking movies of the period 1900-1910, The Adventures of Dolly. It's funny that there is so little information available about her. Yes hedvig I too love Glady's movies. Epically "The Adventures of Dolly"
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Dec 26, 2007 0:57:59 GMT -6
According to the Young Hollywood Hall of Fame website here, Gladys Egan was born in 1896, and died in 1985. :listen: I would be interested to find out the source of information that the website's administrator located. And I would also like to learn if she (Drina Mohacsi) located the correct Gladys Egan. :unsure:
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Post by Midge on Dec 26, 2007 3:59:46 GMT -6
Wow, she lived to be 89 and never wrote a book or was interviewed? What a lot of stories she could have told. Maybe she was the Deanna Durbin of her day and just wanted a quiet, obscure life somewhere far away from Hollywood.
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Post by gina1975 on Dec 26, 2007 12:09:30 GMT -6
According to the Young Hollywood Hall of Fame website here, Gladys Egan was born in 1896, and died in 1985. I would be interested to find out the source of information that the website's administrator located. And I would also like to learn if she (Drina Mohacsi) located the correct Gladys Egan. I wonder if this is where they got their Gladys info. The Gladys at the bottom of the page HERE matches their dates.
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Dec 26, 2007 23:08:48 GMT -6
Thanks for that link, Gina; that's one I hadn't come across before. However, I have stumbled upon so many pages of information on Gladys Egan — but which one? I have no idea which Gladys I am looking for any more.
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Post by gina1975 on Dec 28, 2007 10:25:16 GMT -6
I'll keep my eyes open while I am doing my family tree research. When I need a break from them, I'll look for our Gladys. One of these days we will get the info we need to find her.
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Feb 28, 2008 16:12:03 GMT -6
I noticed on Gladys' IMDb page that she now, at least, has birth and death years in place! You can view it at www.imdb.com/name/nm0250676/. I wonder if these are indeed accurate, and if we can learn what resources IMDb used for their research. I was fairly close in guessing her birth year around 1898, although it's listed as 1896.
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