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Post by harlowbaby on Jul 12, 2006 3:54:01 GMT -6
I just finished watching this picture and really enjoyed it! Joan Blondell was lovely as always and Ann Dvorak was great as the "fallen" woman drawn into a gangster's world after tiring of her own life. A young Bette Davis and Humphrey Bogart as well. Anyone else seen this picture? What are your thoughts?
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Post by rmichaelpyle on Jul 12, 2006 4:21:59 GMT -6
Yes, I like the film very much. Everybody who's a Bogart fan - I'm a huge fan of Bogie - always talks about this film. They should. It's very well done, and it's a fun pre-code romp. But a lot of people don't realize another film was made by Bogie in 1932 that I think is equally good: "Big City Blues". It's got a similar cast of great pre-coders (not stellar names, though), and it will remind you of "Three on a Match", even though the themes are different.
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Jul 12, 2006 9:14:49 GMT -6
Oh, dear, I must have fallen out somewhere, because I'm not even familiar with the title! ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) How embarrassing! ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Sounds like one that would interest me from what you've described, Kristy. Guess I'll need to check that one out! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Larry
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Post by rmichaelpyle on Jul 12, 2006 10:21:12 GMT -6
Just to give you an idea of who's in "Big City Blues":
Joan Blondell...Vida Fleet Eric Linden .... Bud Reeves Jobyna Howland .... Mrs. Serena Cartlich Ned Sparks .... Mr. 'Stacky' Stackhouse Guy Kibbee .... Hummell, the House Detective Grant Mitchell .... Station Agent Walter Catlett .... Cousin 'Gibby' Gibboney Inez Courtney .... Faun Thomas E. Jackson .... Detective Quelkin (as Thomas Jackson) rest of cast listed alphabetically: Herman Bing .... First Waiter (uncredited) Humphrey Bogart .... Shep Adkins (uncredited) Wallis Clark .... Chief of Police (uncredited) Tom Dugan .... Red, Taxi Driver (uncredited) Josephine Dunn .... Jackie DeVoe (uncredited) Betty Gillette .... Mabel (uncredited) Eddie Graham .... Bus Station Clerk (uncredited) Selmer Jackson .... Joe (uncredited) John Kelly .... Driver (uncredited) Evalyn Knapp .... Jo-Jo (uncredited) Wilfred Lucas .... Policeman (uncredited) Eric Mayne .... Musician in Speakeasy (uncredited) Edward McWade .... Baggage Master (uncredited) Torben Meyer .... Second Waiter (uncredited) Geneva Mitchell .... Gossip at 55 Club (uncredited) Clarence Muse .... Nightclub Singer (uncredited) J. Carrol Naish .... Bootlegger (uncredited) Dennis O'Keefe .... Dice Spectator (uncredited) Henry Otho .... Subway Guide (uncredited) Walter Percival .... Jim (uncredited) Dick Powell .... Radio Announcer (voice) (uncredited) Harry Seymour .... Reporter Telephoning (uncredited) Gloria Shea .... Agnes (uncredited) Gertrude Sutton .... Hotel Maid (uncredited) Lyle Talbot .... Len 'Lenny' Sully (uncredited) Sheila Terry .... Lorna St. Clair (uncredited) Jack Wise .... Speakeasy Patron (uncredited)
Notice that Bogart, Dick Powell, Lyle Talbot, Sheila Terry, Clarence Muse, and Evelyn Knapp are uncredited!! These people were all over the movies, if not then, at least a little later in the 30's. Quite a cast, even if not stellar like "Three On A Match". And for those who don't know that film, here's the cast:
Virginia Davis .... Mary Keaton as a Child Joan Blondell .... Mary Keaton, aka Mary Bernard Anne Shirley .... Vivian Revere as a Child (as Dawn O'Day) Ann Dvorak .... Vivian Revere Kirkwood Betty Carse .... Ruth Wescott as a child (misspelled Westcott in opening credits) Bette Davis .... Ruth Wescott (misspelled Westcott in opening credits) Warren William .... Robert Kirkwood Lyle Talbot .... Michael Loftus Humphrey Bogart .... Harve Allen Jenkins .... Dick Edward Arnold .... Ace rest of cast listed alphabetically: Hardie Albright .... Phil (uncredited) Herman Bing .... Prof. Irving Finklestein (uncredited) Clara Blandick .... Mrs. Keaton (uncredited) Dick Brandon .... Horace (uncredited) Ann Brody .... Mrs. Goldberg (uncredited) Spencer Charters .... Street Cleaner (uncredited) Frankie Darro .... Bobby (uncredited) Mary Doran .... Prisoner at Checkers Table (uncredited) Patricia Ellis .... Linda (uncredited) Glenda Farrell .... Mrs. Black, Prisoner at Checkers Table (uncredited) Blanche Friderici .... Miss Blazer (uncredited) June Gittelson .... Fat Prisoner (uncredited) Hale Hamilton .... Defense Attorney (uncredited) Selmer Jackson .... Radio Announcer (voice) (uncredited) Junior Johnson .... Max (uncredited) Jack La Rue .... Ace's Henchman (uncredited) John Marston .... Detective Randall (uncredited) Sidney Miller .... Willie Goldberg (uncredited) Grant Mitchell .... Mr. Gilmore (uncredited) Frank O'Connor .... Telegraph Operator (uncredited) Buster Phelps .... Robert Kirkwood Jr. (uncredited) Stanley Price .... Ace's Henchman (uncredited) Harry Seymour .... Jerry Carter (uncredited) Sheila Terry .... Naomi, Kirkwood's Secretary (uncredited) Jack Webb .... Boy in schoolyard (uncredited)
By the way, yes, that is the same "Jack Webb" who became famous later!! And notice, too, that both Glenda Farrell and Grant Mitchell are uncredited!! Wow, how things change.
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Post by precoder on Jul 12, 2006 22:11:04 GMT -6
Golly Michael, A fun pre-code romp ? Interesting description ... One I'd use for something more like "Melody Cruise" ... I thought the film was extremely hard-edged, steely and somewhat frightening ... It's a lot of story in just sixty minutes. The scene where Dvorak shivers and shakes and takes the money from Blondell was intensely telling ... And all her drug paraphernalia scattered about her on the bed ...
I'm kinda surprised Spencer Charters and Blanche Friderici went uncredited. I suppose that's right, though both had good roles previous to this. I don't remember really seeing either one in this movie ...
My favorite part ... Getting to see Bette Davis in a bathing suit ...
Yowza ...
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Post by rmichaelpyle on Jul 13, 2006 4:24:53 GMT -6
You're right, technically "a fun pre-code romp" is not apt for "Three on a Match", although my intention in saying that was that I would sit for an hour (or up to 70 to 80 minutes) and watch that movie at almost any time with great pleasure, although the movie is what it is, versus watching television or a modern film because that kind of early 30's pre-code for me is enjoyable to watch, no matter what. They get the job done of telling a story well, the film moves at the speed of light, and the acting and the characters are interesting to watch without dead space in between. And frankly, I'm the type who'd rather watch a heady show like this than a comedy, even early 30's.
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Post by vallo13 on Jul 14, 2006 10:44:53 GMT -6
I purchased "Three on a Match" a used VHS at amazon, it's great. Ann Dvorak complained to Jack Warner about the salary of the child playing her son (they were paid the same price) and Warner kind of "Black-Balled" her. So she was left making alot of B films (what a waste of talent). The story its told in 64 minutes and it covers alot it a short time. Davis is kind of wasted(but she just started her career)Warren William, Blondell and Dvorak are great. TCM seems to show this film from time to time but it's always early in the morning or late at night. Not to be missed. Great direction from Mervyn LeRoy.
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Post by precoder on Jul 14, 2006 22:13:23 GMT -6
I saw Ann Dvorak in "Manhattan Merry-Go-Round" 1937 and by then she had badly slipped. It was made by Republic Studios and her role in the film was a sad embarrassment for her ...
Bette Davis appeared in 22 movies before breaking through in "Of Human Bondage" in 1934 ... I thought she showed moments of early brilliance in "Ex-Lady", "Bureau Of Missing Persons" and "Cabin In The Cotton" a film she later said was one of her favorite roles ... She was learning her craft in the precoders ... In the school of hard knocks ...
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Post by Midge on Jul 14, 2006 23:07:25 GMT -6
I thought she showed moments of early brilliance in "Ex-Lady", "Bureau Of Missing Persons" and "Cabin In The Cotton" a film she later said was one of her favorite roles ... She was learning her craft in the precoders ... In the school of hard knocks ... Cabin in the Cotton is perhaps best-remembered for one of Bette's most memorable lines of dialogue: "Ah'd love ta kiss ya, but I just washed my hay-uh!" ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Jul 14, 2006 23:21:24 GMT -6
OMG, I was just thinking about that line a few minutes ago when I saw Benji mention the film above. Perhaps I could make a new signature line? ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Midge on Jul 15, 2006 2:33:30 GMT -6
OMG, I was just thinking about that line a few minutes ago when I saw Benji mention the film above. Perhaps I could make a new signature line? ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) Somehow I can't imagine that as your signature, Larry! ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Jul 15, 2006 7:51:53 GMT -6
Awwwwww, shucks!!!! ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png) ;D
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Post by precoder on Jul 15, 2006 10:32:03 GMT -6
That's it ... I couldn't remember the line when I posted that ... Thanks Midge ... Oh Larry, I don't think that signature would work for you either ... First you'd have to have hair, and then you'd need someone wanting to be kissed by you ... ;D ... ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) ... Benji ...
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Jul 15, 2006 10:42:12 GMT -6
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Post by precoder on Jul 16, 2006 21:11:32 GMT -6
Hey your batting 500 ... Big league credentials ... Me too, but I've got the hair ... It's the other part I'm struggling with ... ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png) ...
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Post by Midge on Jul 16, 2006 21:32:45 GMT -6
Don't give up, Benji. With all the classic movie lovers you've been meeting on line, you're sure to meet somebody, someday. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by maliejandra on Jul 16, 2006 21:51:40 GMT -6
Isn't Buster Phelps the cutest little boy?
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Post by precoder on Jul 16, 2006 22:48:04 GMT -6
Yes Malie and a very sad little role for the poor baby ... How could the child not be tramatized by that ordeal ... That would never fly today ...
I felt so sorry for him at the end with his mother all strung out and his sad little skin needed bathing ... The bent and twisted nails hammered into the windowsill really freaked me out ... And Bogart rubbing his nose ... I forget what he says something about "Did you get her anything ? ... Really a tough movie for it's time ...
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Post by vallo13 on Jul 17, 2006 7:20:02 GMT -6
I alway's tought Bogart (Harve) while rubbing his nose said "I'm Wise" But Jr. (Kirkwood child) also say's to Harve(Bogart) "Don't you hurt my Mommy!" and Bogart say's to him" I'll bear that in mind" vallo
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Jul 17, 2006 7:22:01 GMT -6
This is piquing my curiosity MORE now, to want to see this movie!! ![:-[](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png) Is it on DVD or VHS?
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Post by vallo13 on Jul 17, 2006 7:48:14 GMT -6
It maybe included with "The Forbidden Hollywood" box set due in October. I couldn't wait and brought it at Amazon (used VHS). vallo
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Jul 17, 2006 7:49:48 GMT -6
Well, I guess I'll know what to include on my "list" now; after all, I AM a Bogie fan, anyway! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Larry
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Post by harlowbaby on Jul 18, 2006 2:39:41 GMT -6
i have it on VHS but I'm not sure if there is a DVD out or not.
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Post by maliejandra on Jul 23, 2006 15:09:37 GMT -6
Is there GOING to be a DVD set of Forbidden Hollywood, cause that would be great. They're pretty much all great movies and they're all interesting at least with a good cast.
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Post by precoder on Jul 23, 2006 15:19:21 GMT -6
I wasn't aware of any of this either. A DVD set would be welcomed. That's a big set though. I did read that the newly restored "Baby Face" was slated for September but maybe it will be included as part of this release ... I can't wait ...
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Post by diane on Jan 22, 2007 18:39:28 GMT -6
I just saw this again on the week-end and it is one of my favourite pre-code films along with "Night Nurse". I agree with "precoder" - a "fun romp" - I don't think so. When I first saw this film I was about 10 and these type of films were on all day - and there was no parental supervision. Obviously I didn't get any of the drug references then (I was from the suburbs) but it did scare me because of all the stuff that happened. Dvorak was stunning and believable as the rich girl looking for thrills and unfortunately finding them. Buster Phelps is really adorable as Junior. When he comes into the room , early in the movie, looking neglected and uncared for and says "Mommy, I'm hungry" and "Mommy" tells him to have some more snacks on the tray (they looked as though they had been on the tray for a week). I think it is Lyle Talbot that says - let's get the little guy some bread and milk" - you felt so sorry for the little boy.
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