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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 13, 2006 22:14:33 GMT -6
Hmmm .... This seems like a very interesting movie coming out this Friday, released by Lionsgate Films. I saw the commercial for it on BBC America Channel tonight and decided to check out the affiliated website at www.theusversusjohnlennon.com/. You can watch the movie trailer there, also. This is basically a documentary movie with clips and interviews from people who knew him personally. Sounds like one I'd like to see!  |
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Post by Roger Thornhill on Sept 14, 2006 2:41:12 GMT -6
I saw a short news feature about this on the BBC. Apparently, well, according to the reporter, this is going to try to explain how John was misunderstood in the USA, mind you with the kind of things that he got up to it's easy to see how he could be misunderstood.
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Post by Midge on Sept 14, 2006 3:22:06 GMT -6
From what I've heard, it sounds as if the U.S. government was out to get him.
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Post by precoder on Sept 14, 2006 5:46:51 GMT -6
It was Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew who hated him. They felt that he instigated a revolt movement against the governments world policies. They tried to get him thrown out of the country on drug possession charges or anything they could accuse him of ... I haven't heard about this movie, so I'll try to catch that ... Thanks for the heads-up ...
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 14, 2006 6:21:28 GMT -6
Hmmm  .... makes me wonder, now. When Hinckley assassinated Lennon, did he act alone, or were there "others"? |
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Post by Midge on Sept 14, 2006 21:07:28 GMT -6
Larry, I believe Hinckley was a nutcase who acted alone. I don't think there were any others involved. By the time Lennon was murdered in 1980, Nixon had been out of office for over eight years, and Reagan had not yet been sworn in. John at this point in his life was a happy househusband who'd settled into a quiet domestic life with Yoko and Sean. He was no longer a threat to the U.S. government nor any other.
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Post by precoder on Sept 15, 2006 7:52:34 GMT -6
Whoops ... Some clarification ... John Hinckley shot President Reagan thinking the act would somehow impress actress Jodie Foster ... Yes, a nutcase ...
It was Mark David Chapman who killed John Lennon in 1980. Chapman idolized Lennon and believed shooting him would forever link their two names ...
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 15, 2006 8:18:24 GMT -6
Oh, My Gosh! You're right, Benji! OOPS!!!!  Thank you for pointing that out! Both of those events happened fairly close together in the same era; that's probably why I criss-crossed them. My bad!!!!  Again, thank you for bringing that to light!!!!  ;D |
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Post by Midge on Sept 15, 2006 13:01:16 GMT -6
Eeek! I'm sorry I got the name wrong.  Thanks, Benji! The two events (Lennon's murder, the shooting of Reagan and James Brady) happened within months of each other, so I often confuse the two shooters' names. |
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Post by precoder on Sept 15, 2006 19:12:58 GMT -6
** Well that's liable to happen to anybody **
Know what's interesting ?
Two well-educated diner managers just forgot Mark David Chapman's name ...
Which indicates to me, in the end, he FAILED at linking his name to Lennons ...
Loser ...
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Post by Larry's 66 Diner on Sept 15, 2006 19:38:36 GMT -6
Eeek! I'm sorry I got the name wrong. Thanks, Benji! No, Midge. Actually, I think it was I who started out with the wrong name. Perhaps others may have followed me. So I must take the rap for this one! ;D ::on knees, begging, pleading forgiveness:: Oh, Gladys, can you ever forgive me for making this huge mistake??  ;D ;D |
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Post by Midge on Sept 15, 2006 21:28:57 GMT -6
No, Midge. Actually, I think it was I who started out with the wrong name. Perhaps others may have followed me. So I must take the rap for this one! ;D ::on knees, begging, pleading forgiveness:: Oh, Gladys, can you ever forgive me for making this huge mistake?? That's very noble of you, boss. You may arise now; all is forgiven! (I can't speak for Gladys, though!) Benji, you're quite right. Mark David Chapman has finally sunk into the obscurity he so richly deserves. |
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.... makes me wonder, now. When Hinckley assassinated Lennon, did he act alone, or were there "others"?
Thank you for pointing that out! Both of those events happened fairly close together in the same era; that's probably why I criss-crossed them. My bad!!!! 
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Thanks, Benji! The two events (Lennon's murder, the shooting of Reagan and James Brady) happened within months of each other, so I often confuse the two shooters' names.